so i ought to be rooting for the cards. but boston, there was a bad year in boston. >> and our lovely producer would never forgive us. >> may the best team win. >> thanks for joining us, bill and ally are next. starting with a fox news alert. it continues to crash. and the white house has some explaining to do. i am alisyn. >> and happy mond to you. i am bill hemmer. new glitches on the health care.gov site. we will have fired up reporters including wend allin the white house. >> reporter: there is going to delay the briefing while the president attends the swearing in for the new fbi director.

the crash came after secretary sebelius assured reporters the on line experience is getting better. it plays in the hands of the democrats that want the administration to delay the buying of insurance for individuals. west democrat manchin would like to delay it a year. and the oklahoma senator coburn wants to know who is responsible. >> where is that competency level? the government is good at a lot of things and we should have government in some things and we ought to demand excellence and expertise. >> reporter: they traced the latest computer problem to verizon that had a network failure. the president's fix it guy said it will be fully functional by

the next month. and hundreds of thousands of people are sent cancellation notice. but blue cross subscribers said theirs are offered better plans start nothing january. the affordable care act requires matern ternity and pediatric dent will care. the presidentoused to say if you like your health care you can keep. it they admit that may not be true for everybody. snshg the vast majority of people are coping the plans. people who are uninsured are going to have choices they never had before. >> reporter: in some cases they will pay less because of the subsidies in obama care. >> tom coburn had a lot to say about. this more coming up in mid week. wendal, here's alisyn. >> we are joined by tom beven,

executive of real clear politics. >> hi, alisyn. >> put aside the problems, but the sticker shock that people are experiencing. the la times talked about for middle-class californians, they are experiencing big price increases, why? >> good question. that piece we cared in real politics and got a lot of attention. you have putting aside the tech california glitches. those are the least of the administration's worries, because we have the sticker shock. you have middle-class americans now, those folks who are not going to receive subsidies they are finding out when they go on the web site or try to find coverage, they are going to be charged in some cases, 5, 10 times what they might normally

pay. it is significant amount of money. and those stories are going to continue to be out there. >> it is not just california, but in california, average price increase is 30 percent for the premium rate increase. now, let's just remind what candidate barak obama said in 2007 about the price of premiums. listen to this. >> my plan begins by covering every american. if you have health health insurance only thing that changes for you is the amount of money you spend on premiums. that will be less than what you are spending now. >> that will be less than what you are spending now. that was a broken promise. >> well, this is where the administration is going to find itself in trouble as the stories crop up. the president made three very distinct blatant promise. cope your doctor, your plan and

prices will go down. we are seeing as wand all mentioned this is not true. they are kicked off of their plans and so i am likening this to george. bush promise read my lips, no new taxes. this is a promise obama had replayed now and at odd with the facts on the ground and that say problem politically for the president. >> his language changed this weekend. he no longer said if you like your plan you can keep your plan. listen to how he state today now. >> everyone who already has health insurance through your employer, medicare or medicaid will keep the benefits and preces that this law put in place. >> keep the benefits that the law put in place. that is different than just keep your plan, isn't it? >> it is. you played david a xelrod

modifying his language and executive kelly back pedalling off of the promise because it is simply not true. and the extent it is played out over and over. and there is no reason to suggest that the stories will suddenly stop happening. it will cause not only for the presidented. he's not up for reelection. but it will hurt his job approval rating and that will hurt the democrats in 2014 and beyond. >> tom bevin, thank you for your analysis today. we'll talk about the political fallout in the show, to, thank you so much. >> i tell you the incompetence the building of the web site is staggering. i am talking to health care professionals, how can you expect the government to handle one- sixth of the economy when there is this type of staggering

incompetence on the roll out. >> the problem that marsha blackburn wondering about the affect on the economy the longer it goes on. good day to you, melissa. how much does it hurt if we go over months of this and young people just simply refuse to sign up? >> it hurts a lot. this is one of the key groups that will have to pay for the plan. they are young healthy young people and go on and buy insurance and pay in and get nothing out. they are thought, they don't need insurance now and health care. so we need those people to sign up to pay for the rest. they are people in the 20s and 30s who are used to going on the iphone and purchasing something on amazon in a click of a finger. you heard people trying 20 different times and not able to enroll and someone created an

account in the first day and hasn't been able to log back in. they are likely to sit on the sidelines as long as they possibly can and either pay the fine or not sign up. >> we hear it all of the time. young people have to buy n. if they don't buy in who pays then? >> it is all about the rest of the folks have to pick up the rest of the bill. they are people who have insurance and finding out right now, their premiums are going through the roof. the la times article highlighted a self employed lawyer pregnant and married and had a plan she paid 98 a month for and told by health net, they are cancelling that plan and buy one that is $300. and there are hundreds of thousands of people who will have to pay average of 30 or 50 percent more. >> it is staggering. but you wonder if that increase

is coming out of the right pocket, what comes out of the left pocket and what happens to the economy? >> you are right. it is middle-class folks that notice that big of an increase. it is the biggest percentage of their wallet and what are you going to do? 's eat out less and buy fewer new clothes and save less. and that comes out of the economy. our economy is 70 percent driven by consumer discretion. if you are looking for a silver lining. insurance companies are hiring temporary workers to deal with the problem of the forms filled out incorrectly in the web site and get a part- time job helping them out. >> what you indicated there was a slow down in the economy. right pocket and left pocket stuff. >> thank you, meiss a. you are so moan. >> she's money. >> see you at 5:00. >> fox business. thank you. >> thank you, melissa.

there have been cosmetic changes to the web site. the smiling woman, that you may have just seen is gone and replaced by four logos and she's gone and four logos that are supposed to make you easer for you to navigate and register. and the healthcare.gov lady her disappearance is a mystery. no one has tracked her down and the administration will not release her identity or information or name. >> she's out of a gig. as the hour rolls along we'll try to log on to the healthcare.gov. alisyn or new jersey or new york. >> new jersey, and i have done it for an hour and haven't been able to and just seeing that error message. >> i will try new york for the next hour or so and let you know

how you do. send us a tweet at bill hemmer. >> or to me at allyson camerota. a british man is arrested and charged with hacking in several u.s. agencies. including nasa. 28-year-old loweri love and his partner stole the information of thousands of government employees including military service members. the motive was to disrupt the operations and infrastructure of the u.s. government. it is not clear if love tried to sell or profit from it in any way. remember all of the federal workers who filed for unemployment in the 16 day shut down. they are told they have to give the money back because they received back pay while out of work. that is not cool. that is double dips. you can't keep both.

nationally 70,000 workers filed for unemployment and amounting to millions in jobless benefits. and a possible motive in a brutal attack that left a family dead. the information that may have set the shooter off. new information on whether the u.s. needs to change its policy in the middle east in attacks that targeted christians. what he saw the night that four americans were killed in benghazi. >> i could hear the gunshots and he said, this man, coming in to the mission, his voice, he was scared and you could tell he was scared and running. i could tell he was running. canned cheer -- [ susan ] ...as though he had never left.

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reasons in different countries. iran shiite and egypt a sun ni islamic country. but the extremist view of the religion, the enforcement of strict sharia law and i think indicative sign of what the regime in iran is really like. egypt is some what different. >> how so? what accounts for that? >> i think you have in teheran, what they call themselves islamic revolution of 1979, and it is a government that supports terrorist activity and seeking nuclear weapons and represses its own citizens that don't share the values of the 1979 revolution. i think it is all part of the same thing. i think a government supporting terrorism will repress its own citizens and that's what you see here. >> the attacks in egypt are deadly. this wedding party and a guy

rolls up in a motorcycle and guns everybody down. who in these countries has the backs of these people, the christians? >> in egypt under mubarak, conditions were far from perfect. i would not contend that but with the muslim brotherhood suppressed, the christians had an opportunity to live normal open lives. remember the secretary general of united nations himself was a coptic christian. but what you see going on now, the muslim brotherhood forced out of power by the majority of egyptians and virtually all of the coptices, is now engaged in terrorism and gurella warfare and against the stability in the country. and they believe that targeting the coptices helps their cause. the military government has more to do to try to protect the coptices. >> you think they have or are

they stepping away from that. why are they so reluctant? >> they clearly failed for the reasons you say given the level of the violence whether it is prejudice against the coptices within the ranks of the military itself or inefficiency, i don't knows. i think it is important for the united states to make it clear that protection of the religious freedom is an important human it is most individuals express desire for a free and open society in commitment to their faith. if freedom of religion is not guaranteed, it is an indication other freedoms are not protected either. >> keep watch it now. john bolton, with me now. still a mystery in california. what is the black wrapped barge? what is in there? >> it is a good question. plus black smoke filling the

cities in one of the most guarded sites you will find anywhere. it is a year since the bleed scene in benghazi. what happen the night the terrorist stormed the u.s. consulate. >> we are here to kill americans and not libyans and they beat them and pistol whipped them with the rifles and let them go.

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he said what is going on? he said we are getting attacked. i said how many. he said they are all over the compound. i was shocked and i didn't know what to say. let's just keep fighting and i am on my way.

>> that's another witness coming forward to describe what he saw the night theus embassy was under attack. four americans were killed in the assault including ambassador stephens. >> we learned that he reaffirmed the reporting that fox news and myself and other colleagues reported in the last year in regards to what happened in benghazi. the important thing to note, he talked about the force that night, how they knew it was a force to beeckoned with and not a random group of individuals that got together to raid both locations. it was preplanned and he commented on how cianex, the second location they were told not to go and they did respond. he talked about being on the phone with those in the annex that night. >> i could hear gunshots and he

said, there is men coming in to the mission. his voice, he was scared and he was running. i could tell he was running. >> the phone call he's having with the people in the consulate. what is interesting about morgan gones, he works for blue mountain security. they were in charge of proifgd the nonarmed local security. we spoke with him in january and february before we stopped talking and he talked about how he was shaken up because he was good friends with the ambassador and he talked about the lack of response. he didn't get into it last night but we did in a exclusive report back in may. >> they would have been there before the second attack and they would have been there at a minimum to facility their exit

out of the problem situation. nobody knew how it was going to develop and you hear a bunch of people and advisors we wouldn't have sent them because security was unknown situation. >> a lot of questions still alisyn, and it is good when others jump in the fray no matter how late to affirm it is legitimate. >> you are so right, and the story stays consistent and your reporting is compelling. i am glad you played it again. breaking news out of washington. >> making sure that millions was americans have access to affordable health insurance many of them for the first time. yes? >> the report that josh mentioned, citing an official who made it sound as if it was

under way a number of years and when the president learned about it, he ordered it stopped, does the president continue to have full confident in general alexander? >> the president has full confidence in general alexand sxert leadership in the nsa and the rank and file in the nsa who do extraordinary work on behalf of every american season and allies in keeping them safe. the issues that are part of the review to look at how we can better balance our security needs, and the security needs of our allies against the real privacy concerns that we all share, and as i noted at the top, there has been extraordinary change, technological change in the last 10 or 20 years and certainly in the last ten or so years since

9/11, that has affected i mean, the whole world in the way that we transmit and gather information. and that includes, that has brought about changes in the way and developments in the way that we gaerth intelligence and changes in the way that those in the world want to do harm to americans and their allies operate. that has meant we have had to adapt. as we have adapted and as we adapt, we need to make sure as the president is insisting that we keep a balance that protects our security and takes into account our real privacy concerns. >> sir, revelations of this eavesdropping, have caused damage with our allies, when would you expect the reviews that you talk about to be done and would you expect them to do scalling back of phone

conversations of our friends? >> the entire review that is led by the white house will be completed by the end of the year, there are other efforts under way by the review group on intelligence and communication technology. >> that is interesting. this has to do with the german leader. she's been followed for ten years. >> merkel was not happy about. that >> and you are trying to log on to health care.gov. >> having a hard time. >> i was very successful in new york. >> state exchange. >> and then i went to ohio and joints down. we'll keep you updated. meanwhile, is the president losing support in his own party and the wake of glitch gate. >> and a little boy, crossing a street gets hit by a truck. >> no more special sauce.

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he is said to have multiple weapons and one confirmed victim but no report on that victim's condition. also the nsa scandal spying moving over europe. spains had 60 million calls monitored one month. they are asking for answers on that. life- altering news. mcdonalds kicking out the ketchup supplier. the former head of burger king was made the company's ceo. >> who do you use? >> hunt or delmontemptare your fries going to taste the same? >> what about your big mac. >> we have field research. >> call your kids in to do that for us. >> great idea. >> i thought so. almost everything gets rated

now. why not the health care plans. >> what did you find? >> the fact is, they are rated. here is consumer reports, not only on the scale of 1- 5 but health plans are ranked 1- 500 and just like a car or tv you want to know if your health plan is any good. can you resolve a complaint or specialist, guess what, neither the federal government or most states will give you that information on the web site. and it is from the national council of quality insurance. you buy insurance under obama care and because in part. companies that did not get rated and those with lower scores didn't want the comparison. >> it is extremely important that people have the rating information, because otherwise they are confronted with all of the plans on the exchanges and the benefits are the same and they are going to pick the

lowest price. and picking a slightly more expensive plan might serve them better. >> it is states like oregon and colorado and minnesota do display the quality rating right next to the price or monthly premium and consumers can judge the value of each provider. california said so many of the plans are using a new set of doctors that the old ratings are not valid and other providers that have not add or changed doctors, they say their scores are relevant. snrs if i was a consumer, i would want to know that the plan i might pick, the network that i will access care through is brand new and just put together in the last year for this product. i think that is something i would want to know if i was buying a plan. >> the federal government that

runs the health insurance plan had to back out after officials failed to renew a contract with the company that handles the surveys. and so only in 2016 will the feds put the rating in there if you can so what you are buying is a good deal or not. >> william thank you for. that snrs talking about obama care, with all of the technical glitches, is support for the affordable care act and the president eroding. >> several democrats are breaking ranks. they want a delay and bradda a former deputy to president obama. and emily isdirector of young democrats of america. camerota is first. >> let me start wu. >> americans were willing to grant the president a grace period to work out technical glitches. at what point is there fallout for the president and democrats as a result of this?

>> there is a lot riding on success of the law. no question about that and why so many democrats are willing to tie themselves to the success. i think you will see it to be an issue in 2016. i want to be clear about what the democrats who are asking a delay and what they are talking about in that delay. they are talking about the extension of the open enrollment. not house democrats and defund or repeal or delay. it is extending the open enrollment period. >> some want the open enroll sxment some want a delay to make sure it is going to work. brad, do you think there is political fallout at this point? >> you bet there is. democrat, in self preservation mode. the entire house is up in 2014 and they are saving their own hides now. and emily if the democrats would

have taken the last deal before the shutdown to extend and delay obama care just like what they are calling now. it would not have been a government shutdown. you guys should have known the catastrophe that was about to behalf the american people. >> when you look in the rearview mirror emily would you have liked to have a redo on that. >> the web site is not going great. no one is denying that. >> should you have taken that deal looking back. >> no, you talk about self preservation mote. lammar alexander started saying he didn't want to be part of the party that people are talking about scorecards and repealing obama care 46 times. he didn't want to be a part of. that i actually think what is really going on, we are in the middle of the republican civil

war. >> let's see you mentioned 2016 in your first comment to alisyn and brad sees it close tore that as in 2014. and you must be hearing these conversations amongst the democrats, they have to right the ship or next november could be ugly. >> i think people are talking about 2014 but not under those circumstances. i think what we are seeing house direct by house district that districts that we never thought would be competitively blue are. as much as the american people don't like congress. the blame is on the republicans when you talk to the american people about it. >> brad, how dow see it? >> opposite. the american people know obama care is a democrat policy. and no republican voted for. it if the president can't do the easiest part of obama care, what does that say to the american

people about the price? and delivery of the care? that has ylt to befall the american people. it is sdraftous as the roll out. >> some say it is the tip of the iceberg. most of it is beneath water. axelrod said most will not lose their coveraging. watch for a change in talking points. thank you both. >> thank you guys. bill, i am still trying to log on. >> how is it going? >> still can't get in healthcare.gov. can't get in this new jersey. >> ohio, system is down. >> sending an error message. >> we have 19 minutes left in the show. >> we can make it happen. >> as you know, the web site is glitchy. we'll talk to a tech expert about whether your private information is safe once you log

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all right grechen carlsson is back with the real story. >> i hope you had a fantastic weekend. more outrage after the benghazi attacks. does the obama administration have a serious case of al-qaeda blindness in the middle east. and's predawn raid raising a lot of questions. the feds had's warrant for a potato gun and left with a stack of her confidential notes and names of her sources. i will talk to that reporter. snrs and the school board

allowed staff to pack heat on school grounds. good idea or not. that's a head-on the real story. >> edhenry and jay carney now. >> i didn't say that. i said people who are working on this issue are addressing the kind of question you just raised if that is the case. i think more broadly, we have acknowledged that health dht care.gov has not performed adequately and the president is not happen about that. secretary sebelius is not happy about that and that is why we have dedicated resources to fixing the existing problems and get that site operating in a level that will allow millions of americans to have the kind of user experience they deserve and need to have on line when they are shopping for affordable health insurance and enrolling in affordable health insurance

plans. the purpose is not to build a web site. the call in centers and in person centers, it is to provide information to americans about the health care choices available to them. health care choice that were not available proir to the affordable care act. >> the president when he was trying to get the law passed. if you have health insurance you will be able to keep your plan. this morning david a xelrod pressed on that point anded the vast majority will keep their plans. will you admit when the president said if you have a plan you will not get to keep it that that is not true. >> let's be clear and what the president said there will be changes brought about to create minimum standards of coverage. minimum services that every insurance plan has to provide so that an individual shopping for insurance, when he or she

purchases insurance knows this maternity and preventative services and mental health services are covered and the policy doesn't have an annual limit or lifetime. there are out of pocket expenses. and that is annually and for a lifetime. it is true there are existing health care plans on the market that don't meet the standards and do not quality for the affordable health care act and can be grandfathered. what is true, that americans who have insurance on the existing individual market will now have numerous options available to them and six out of ten will pay less than a hundred a month. it is better insurance coverage than what was available in many cases to americans around the country and in an area of the

insurance market that was so lightly regulated that you often didn't know what you were getting. you can sign a plan and pay a lot of money for out of pocket expenses and find out it doesn't cover the condition that you have. that will no longer be the case. i get what the effort here is, but the fact is. >> but the president said one thing and you are admitting that that is not the case. not everyone will cope their plan and admittedly wind up with better insurance in the long one. and the president solid it as if you have a plan you will get to keep it and that's not true. >> ed, i appreciate what you are trying to do. 80 percent of the american people get insurance through their employer or medicare or medicaid. they don't have to worry or change anything. those remaining individuals who don't have insurance at all.

now will have it available to them or get it through the individual market will have it available to them through expanded medicaid services in those states that accepted the . as well as through the health care marketplaces. it's correct, i mean, i think your point, it's correct that substandard plans that don't provide minimum services, that have a lot of fine print that leaves consumers in the lurch often because of annual caps or lifetime caps or, you know, carve outs for some pre-existing conditions, those are no longer allowed. because the affordable care act is built on the premise that health care is not a privilege, it's a right, and there should be minimum standards for the plans available to americans across the country. >> there was a woman on cbs this morning when you say it's sub standard --

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all right. more now on obama care, beyond the glitches, some critics are raising concerns about the security of the healthcare.gov website and whether your personal data is safe. jeremy caplan is the foxnews.com tech editor. jeremy, great to have you here. you're the perfect person for this segment. >> thank you. >> is our personal data, even if we could logon, which bill and i have had a very hard time doing throughout this hour and have not been able to do, if we were to is our personal data safe? >> that's a big question. this is certainly going to be a high profile, perhaps the

highest profile site. keep in mind, of course, we have a number of sites that have a lot of information on this scale. personally i don't think my uncle's kidney dialysis information is going to be as important to some of those hackers as bank information. the fact that it is such a big repository of information means we should all be a little bit concerned about what we're putting in there and what happens to it. especially considering all the glitches we have seen from this site and there have been quite a few of those. >> the president this weekend said he's going to need a few more weeks. a few more weeks to get it up and running. in your opinion is this website fixable? >> that's the key question here. i think it is fixable. the challenges the-- challenge people bit off a little more than they can chew. we were talking about a shopping component as well. there's just perhaps too m things going on all at once. take a giant company like facebook. they didn't sit up to be your

one stop communication source even though now they have become that. perhaps they should roll this out a little bit more slowly, a few components at a time and not everything all at once. >> yeah. that would make sense. jeremy kaplan, thanks so much for your technical prowess here. >> the man knows his stuff here. the results of our own healthcare.gov test in a moment. i've been kind of working it. you'll find that out in a moment. also, where in the world are they doing this the week of halloween? just dropping from the clouds. [ grunts softly ]

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inexplicab inexplicably. pumpkins crashing. cars, pianos, outhouses. for every pound of pumpkin dropped, the march of dimes gets ten cents. >> i got into a live chat. >> i couldn't get in as a new jersey resident. we'll tell you more tomorrow. here's the real story. thanks, guys. today on "the real story" do you let your kids go on those rides at the state fair? any fair in your neighborhood? in one state something went really wrong. five people hurt. now the ride operator gets charges of assault with a deadly weapon. plus, do you want your teachers carrying heat? one school district voting to allow schoolteachers and staff to carry guns on school grounds saying teachers deserve the same rights as everyone else in the state. new allegations of spying on our friends and allies around the world triggers new outrage. what the president did or did not know, and when. hi, everyone. i'm